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why do many dance schools think they are doing us a favor?

                     A couple of the dance schools in my area offer a class called Ballroom dancing 1, and they teach:

ten minutes of West Coast Swing
ten minutes of Salsa
ten minutes of waltz
ten minutes of foxtrot
ten minutes of  rhumba

and only ten minutes of ballroom!

This dance style mix of "a little of everything and a lot of nothing" is frustrating and annoying for a beginner like me.  When you attempt to please all crowds, you end up making most people mad.  Why do dance schools do this????????  You would think they could draw a large enough crowd by focusing one or two styles in a course, and to teach them well.                   


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Re: why do many dance schools think they are doing us a favor?

                     Dance schools are all about pleasing everyone when really they don't help anyone at all. If you really want to learn one or two styles of dancing check out you local community colleges and ask to see a course syllabus before signing up for the class, or, if you can afford it take private lessons and let your teacher know exactly what you are looking to learn. I don't know where you went or what you were hoping to learn but just FYI most Arthur Murray studios don't teach the swing/Lindy that's being done on social dance floors right now.                   


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Re: why do many dance schools think they are doing us a favor?

                     mindydanz,


Thanks for the advice.  I didn't mean to rant, but the process can be frustrating.  Specialized dance schools are the norm in Chicago.  Ever since I moved to central IL, the whole process has been frustrating.  sad   And yes, the park districts offer the same kind of light hodgepodge that I  don't need.  (I mean, do I really want to learn "night club" dancing when enrolling in a ballroom dancing class?)

What do you do if you learn East coast swing in one city (which I did), then find mostly west coast instuctors in another town?  Is it possible to learn/use both at the same time?  Fill up my free time,  I thought about signing up for lessons at two different schools (one teaches West coast; the other one East coast).

I always wondered what differences really exist between the two  swing styles (besides stepping forward on the first count instead of backward).  What has been your experience trying to learn two different styles at the same time?  Can it be done?  Would it be too confusing?  I am really serious about taking lessons two-three times a week.  Thanks for your help!                   


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Re: why do many dance schools think they are doing us a favor?

                     Learning multiple styles at once? Yes, it can be done. I took up dancing last July, and since then I've learnt (in classes), in varying amounts:
Lindy hop (both Savoy and Hollywood)
East coast Swing
Collegiate Shag
West Coast Swing
Rockabilly (Yes, I know most of you don't think it's a dance style, but it is down here smile )
and even a *tiny* bit of Texas Two-Step.
I think that's all... smile
It's kind of confusing at first to try to mix them up... especially stuff that was so similar but with subtle differences... but once you get them sorted out in your head, it's doable. It even kind of helps... I found it kind of useful to know bits of West Coast when learning Lindy, and vice versa, and you can put moves from one into another.

I generally take three classes a week... so long as you go out on the weekends and practice, you get better *real* fast. smile                   


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                     Thanks for all the great advice.  I have noticed many beginners on the dance floor asking themselves if they want to do Lindy or Swing.  I never thought that there was a big difference.  I recently read a couple of articles on the history of swing that stated that east coast swing limits you if you want to advance, but somehow this is not true with west coast?!?!?!?!

I once took intermediate east coast swing lessons and beginning lindy lessons at the same time.  I am thinking of doing this again, but with one twist:  would learning west coast help me learn to become a better Lindy dancer than east coast?  Would west coast help me more with ballroom dancing than east coast?  The confusion lies in finding swing dance styles that best compliment ballroom and lindy.   :?:  :?:                   


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Re: why do many dance schools think they are doing us a favor?

                     West coast & lindy can work together but West coast & East Coast are hard to mix.  I'm assuming your a leader in dance which makes it more diddicult for you.  If your a follower, go out dancing ( allow the leaders to lead you) and decide then what you like best.  That will hep ypu determine what exactly you want to persue.  I would suggest one style at a time as you learn them you'll discover which styles can work together.  As for your ballroom ~ I don't know much about it but PLEASE don't do it on a swing floor, that is all I ask (you can see my initial beef about this in the topic entitled dance ettiquite)

~Mindy                   


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Re: why do many dance schools think they are doing us a favor?

                     

...would learning west coast help me learn to become a better Lindy dancer than east coast?  Would west coast help me more with ballroom dancing than east coast...?
That's like asking if learning to ice-skate would make you a better pizza chef.  It really depends on exactly why you're doing it, and what your natural aptitude and interests are.

My advice is to take the classes that you enjoy most, whether because of the style, the teacher, or the other students.  As you progress in any style you will develop your own variations, and may soon find that you are doing West Coast in a Lindy class and feeling just fine about it.  No reason you shouldn't.                   


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Re: why do many dance schools think they are doing us a favor?

                     Thanks for the great feedback!
My main concern was not fun (I could have just as much fun learning and using either swing style tongue ) but footwork compatibility.  Yes, it would be ideal to learn one style that would help me get better with the other.

I mean, ballroom starts by the lead stepping forward on the first count with the left foot; so does west coast swing.  When I was learning Lindy, we would always step backwards on count one with the left foot; east coast swing leads also step backwards.  If the above info. is totally wrong, please let me know.  So I guess my original question should have been about proper foot placement.

The easier it would be to transition between the different dance styles, the better.   lol

Regarding my choice of classes, I might be forced to learn a little of each on account of the weak swing scene in central Illinois.  Summer course offerings worry me a bit, as so much enrollment is based on when school is in session at the University of Illinois.    I hope we can eventually pull this area out of the 1980's culturally.......                   


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