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To be Scene or Not to be scene....

                     Here's a question - do you feel that there always has to be some sort of 'scene' for those who love the vintage life?  Are these scenesters 'elitist'?  Do you feel intimidated sometimes? 

I am a newbie, and while I love all that's vintage, I find it intimidating to wear vintage out and meet other people who seem more "in the know" than I am.  How do you get over this shy feeling....?                   


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Re: To be Scene or Not to be scene....

                     There's a scene locally, I know that much.  There are politics, people to avoid, place to be seen and places to avoid...

I've made a few good friends and I figure I'll get plugged into the network gradually.  I'm in no rush.                   


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Re: To be Scene or Not to be scene....

                     In my experience, there are people of every scene where I live, from retro to trendy to whatever you can imagine. I love vintage style, but I love a lot of other things at the same time. That leaves me with the problem that I feel like I am a jack of all styles and master of none. I find myself wondering if maybe I should devote myself to one scene and become a master at that, so I can stop feeling like such a poseur. That is honestly how I feel sometimes. It's like I have fashion ADD. I am all over the place! One minute I am devoting myself to the vintage, then I decide to be goth for a few, the switch to 80's, then onto something else. ACK!                   


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Re: To be Scene or Not to be scene....

                     A scene? Yeah, you'll always find that. A core of self-appointed nongoscenti who give you and every third newbie a creepy, unwelcome feeling? Yeah, you'll find that, too--but with the wrong people, not necessarily in the wrong scenes. You'll always discover that there are jerks to stay away from. Just learn who they are, try to be civil with them to the extent possible, and you'll eventually run into the good people. They're the ones who make the scene fun and enjoyable, and you'll get to know them soon.

Welcome aboard! Here at Atomic, you'll find the good folks. Hope we see you soon!                   


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Re: To be Scene or Not to be scene....

                     I guess the next obvious question would be, at least for me, when did you come out vintage?

I mean, a point where you were wearing vintage when it wasn't specifically a "vintage" occassion?  Or that point where you decided to wear vintage every day?  Especially you, ZSC.  I'm very interested! smile                   


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Re: To be Scene or Not to be scene....

                     Just wear what you like, and don't worry about what other people think.  Make you're own scene! big_smile  And if you're being yourself, you'll never be a poseur.                   


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Re: To be Scene or Not to be scene....

                     Around 1977. I started wearing argyle sweaters, bowties, and saddle shoes during the disco days, when I was still in high school. Got the s--t beat out of me a couple of times, but fought back pretty viciously, too. Funny thing is that I've still got some of the bowties.

Retro is just a daily thing for me now. Almost all of my hats, ties, and other accessories are all vintage now. I just like 'em better!!                   


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                     When I think of the word 'scene' I envision a group of lemings all jumping off of a cliff one after the other.(sad, I know) A scene is what unimaginative individuals become part of. There's nothing worse than the lack of creativity. Worrying about 'fitting in' or if you're doing 'it' correctly...no, no, no. Do not become part of the 'greater mass' for sake of being 'accepted' or playing it safe. If you like a given lifestyle then go about imitating it in your own way. If you like the fashions then wear them in your own style. If it's respect that you're afraid of not receiving then don't think on it for a moment. Who doesn't respect someone who has the guts to truly be themselves? I like to think that I'm in my own little world. What I find fantastic might not be great to someone else but it makes me feel happy so who gives? You only live once so do everything that you've ever wanted and don't let anyone or anything hold you back. :wink:                   


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Re: To be Scene or Not to be scene....

                     

I guess the next obvious question would be, at least for me, when did you come out vintage?
Hmmmm...lemme see...when did I come out of the womb now? big_smile                   


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Re: To be Scene or Not to be scene....

                     I began to come out vintage at about age 14 (that's 3 years ago), at first it was quite simple, pretty much like ZSC did, sans saddle shoes, but then it turned into part of my daily life (wether my parents like it or not). As for the scene thing, I'm the scene! here where I live there is no such thing as retro, which is a good thing.                   


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Re: To be Scene or Not to be scene....

                     ok, it's not that good, but it has it's benefits.  :wink:                   


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Re: To be Scene or Not to be scene....

                     

...where I live there is no such thing as retro...
No such thing as retro!? Where do you live? The Yukon? lol                   


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Re: To be Scene or Not to be scene....

                     velveteenidol-
Lots of places have a "scene", and that scene is made up of vastly different people who share similar interests.  Not all of them are nice, or at least not right away.  Some want to see that a "newbie" at least put some effort into a vintage look before they'll be forthcoming with tips, advice, or friendship.  I'm not saying they're right to do this, but it's the truth and I've probably been guilty of it once or twice myself.

So, my suggestions to you would be as follows:

1. Like most said, be yourself and make no apologies for it.  We at the Cafe love you no matter what you're wearing.

2. If you want to "do it right", do a little research on your own before you start peppering someone with questions.  If someone's been wearing a 60 year-old wool Army uniform all day in June, he might not be so freindly when that 15th question rolls around, especially if the answer is only a Google search away.

You are of course welcome and encouraged to pepper us with as many questions as you like, since we're all sitting in fornt of the computer in gym shorts, t-shirts, and flip-flops.

TMBC                   


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Re: To be Scene or Not to be scene....

                     

...where I live there is no such thing as retro...
No such thing as retro!? Where do you live? The Yukon? lol
Not really, but it's a place I'm ashamed of living in (I'll move back to Canada as soon as I can).                   


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Re: To be Scene or Not to be scene....

                     

...since we're all sitting in front of the computer in gym shorts, t-shirts, and flip-flops.
Hey! Are you spying on me TMBC? (he he!) J/K...I must confess that I always dress up even if I'm only going to the grocery store...sad, I know. :roll:                   


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Re: To be Scene or Not to be scene....

                     

Funny thing is that I've still got some of the bowties.
Yeah, and I got the rest.  :wink:  Little off topic, but I have gotten a lot of compliments on those ties.

Reading through this thread makes me feel a little better about my fashion sense being all over the place. Although I may not belong to one trend, or whatever you want to call it, it makes me realize that I end up looking just as good as the person who wears the latest trends or the hottest vintage pieces. ONWARD INTO THE WORLD!!! AAAHHH!!!!!!!                   


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Re: To be Scene or Not to be scene....

                     

Lots of places have a "scene", and that scene is made up of vastly different people who share similar interests.  Not all of them are nice, or at least not right away.  Some want to see that a "newbie" at least put some effort into a vintage look before they'll be forthcoming with tips, advice, or friendship.  I'm not saying they're right to do this, but it's the truth and I've probably been guilty of it once or twice myself.
Thank you for being candid,  TMBC.  I appreciate it.  I can understand everyone's kind response of "Just be yourself and enjoy!" but there's the reality of the cruel world as well.  I think everyone is a little leery when meeting someone new, and it's just like the first day of any new venture - a little scary, but exhilirating as well, because it's a new beginning. 

I have lots of questions, and I will post them as they come to me.  Thank you again. 

However, I'd love to hear more about people's vintage adventures and when they got started in this Wonderland....?  any takers?                   


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Re: To be Scene or Not to be scene....

                     

Not really, but it's a place I'm ashamed of living in (I'll move back to Canada as soon as I can).
Awww...well, you won't be under your parents' wings for long. :roll:                   


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                     I look at what others are doing, consider my own beliefs/desires, then do my own thing, based on what the others are doing, or not. Some "scenes" allow for individual expression, within a common denominator, such as with hot rodding. Sure, there might be a plethora of (say) '32 Ford roadster highboys at a car show, but when ya get to looking closer, each builder/owner has done something their way, which sets it apart from all the other '32 Ford roadster highboys.

In this, I don't see becoming part of a scene as being as bad as "a bunch of lemmings," but a place for people with similar interests, a common denominator, to gather. Those of us that frequent The ATOMIC Cafe are part of a scene, and I don't see many "lemmings" around here.  big_smile

Matt                   


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Re: To be Scene or Not to be scene....

                     

In this, I don't see becoming part of a scene as being as bad as "a bunch of lemmings," but a place for people with similar interests, a common denominator, to gather. Those of us that frequent The ATOMIC Cafe are part of a scene, and I don't see many "lemmings" around here.  big_smile
Oh, sorry Matt...I suppose we have different interpretations of what a 'scene' is. If by 'scene' you mean lifestyle or common interests including room for individuality then disregard my remark to mean the offense. I think of a 'scene' being like...well...take the modern punk scene for instance. The kids do not appreciate real punk or have even heard in most cases. Instead they have turned it into a style and have made it so that they only accept others who have their style or listen to their music (which is most definitely not punk nowadays). It's just a facade I suppose. No knowledge or history. It's just pop and style without the roots. Am I  making myself clear?                   


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Re: To be Scene or Not to be scene....

                     

Am I  making myself clear?
Perfectly. Unfortunately (sighing), it does go both ways. Maybe, just maybe, one of the "lemmings" will develop a true interest in whatever scene they've "adopted at that time," and actually start looking into, and embracing the roots of it. Or...they'll simply move on, to whatever the next "scene" happens to be (one more sigh).

Matt                   


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                     Ahhh, I hear ya Ford! Ain't it the truth? Eventually the displaced souls will find their way. :wink: There is always hope. :roll:                   


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                     Scenes?  There are scenes?  Certainly not in my Bop Dead neck of the woods!  The scene here is whatever I'm into at the time, although it is only a "scene of one", as no one I know is into what we call the Retro scene.  Besides, I'm terrified of clubs and parties.  (and the yuppies run everything where I am)

Marlowe                   


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                     I've never really worried about scenes or who is a part of them. Dressing retro is more about how I want to represent the music I love and play, than about how other people see me. There is a great saying which I once read, and I apologize for not knowing who wrote it but it stated, " you all laugh at me for being different, I laugh at all of you for being the same." Just make sure you wear what you want, and live how you like because it's how you feel that matters...and confidence can pull of any look.                   


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Re: To be Scene or Not to be scene....

                     

I've never really worried about scenes or who is a part of them. Dressing retro is more about how I want to represent the music I love and play...
Hmmm, you play?  Do tell!                   


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