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                     Having just poured myself a 7&7 (and a rather strong one, at that, so forgive any typos!   8)  ) and put on one of my favorite LP's, I am wondering how many Atomites enjoy 50's and early 60's lounge music.  (Sorry, not new electronica/lounge, parkyposer; just not my thing.)

And by "lounge" I also mean Hawaiiana/ Exotica and instrumentals, not just Frank, Deano & Judy.  For instance, I like to buy anything with an emphasis on bongos and percussion, especially those released in the late 50's (when "Stereo" was new).  These albums, called "Pinnacle of Percussion", "Persuasive Percussion", etc.  were designed to test the limits of your hi-fi.  And they still do.  Not to mention some of the killer arrangements and session musicians you find on them. 

While these albums are not exactly late-night seduction tools, as some lounge-purists might argue, they are definitely cool!  (And that's all I ask.)

So my question is how many of you are into "lounge", and what do you like to listen to?                   


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                     SusieQT, I, too, am a big fan of so-called "Exotica". Some of my favorites are: Les Baxters "Ritual of the Savage", Milt Raskins "Exotic Percussion", anything by  Arthur Lyman ("The Legend of Pele", "B Wana A", "Taboo", both #1 and #2), The Martin Denny Quartet's "Exotica", "Hypnotique", and "Primitiva", and anything else that has that same unique sound. I have them all on vinyl, but have put them to tape so I can play them in my vehicles. Keeps me one mellow dude! 8)                   


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                     I'm lucky enough to have Volumes 1 & 2 of both Persuasive Percussion and Provacative Percussion on vinyl.  Amazingly, I had one volume of each and my wife contributed the other volume for each when we got married and combined our collection.
In my opinion, these are some of the finest Hi-Fi Lounge albums ever.  I'm especially fond of the Provacitive Percussion series because of the amazing West Coast Jazz studio orchestra.  I recently transferred those two to CD so I could listen to them when I'm not at home.
Persuasive Percussion is great, too.  They have the best liner notes!  The liner notes tell you exactly how each track will tax your Hi-Fi system to its limits.  The music is wonderful, too.
Now, my Percussion Tribute to Glenn Miller featuring the Frankie Capp orchestra is another matter.  It's pretty lousy.  I recently read that the percussion effects were added to a previously recorded Glenn Miller tribute session when the percussion album fad hit.                   


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 They have the best liner notes!  The liner notes tell you exactly how each track will tax your Hi-Fi system to its limits.  The music is wonderful, too.
I concur!  In fact, that's often a clue to which albums are worth purchasing- the more tech info, the better the record.  I am curious as to how you transfer LP's onto CD?  What's the trick?  (I'm sure this is going to be expensive...  :roll: )

TPS, wasn't "Taboo" a Les Baxter album, also?  Wait, no, I think it was "Tamboo"- gets confusing.  BTW, some of these exotica albums have been re-released on CD, for car listening.  But of course, the vinyl sounds better at home!   big_smile                   


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I am curious as to how you transfer LP's onto CD?  What's the trick?
Transferring isn't too difficult or expensive, but it does take some time.  It's definitely possible to make higher quality transfers than I do, but I don't think it would be worth the additional expense.

I use my computer's CD-RW drive and a program called Audio Cleaning Lab, it's made by a company called Magix.  I bought a little adapter that lets me hook the right and left audio outputs on my turntable to the line in jack on my sound card.  I play the record and Audio Cleaning Lab records it and automatically sets up the track division (I usually have to change a few of the track start times, though).  After the entire record is copied to my hard drive I use some of the tools in the program to take out any obnoxious pops or hissing and then the program burns it to CD.  You can even enter the track names into the program so they'll show up if you have a CD-text CD player.  The CD player I DJ with has CD-text and it's pretty neat when I use my burned CDs.

If you already have a CD burner on your computer it shouldn't be too expensive to get started.  When I bought Audio Cleaning Lab, Staples was running an instant rebate that made the program about $10, I think it usually sells for around $30.  Of the similar programs I've looked at, it's by far the best.  It's easy to use, it actually improves the sound on some of my records that received "tough love" before I became their custodian, and it's really affordable.

After I burn the CD, I usually scan in elements of the record's original cover art and make a jewel case insert.  I can sometimes fit two LPs on a CD, especially when there are one or two tracks that I remove because of scratches.

Let me know if you start transferring records.  I'm willing to help with any advice I can give.                   


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Jumpin Jim wrote:

SusieQT wrote:



I bought a little adapter that lets me hook the right and left audio outputs on my turntable to the line in jack on my sound card.  I play the record and Audio Cleaning Lab records it and automatically sets up the track division (I usually have to change a few of the track start times, though).    When I bought Audio Cleaning Lab, Staples was running an instant rebate that made the program about $10, Iquote]

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Sounds (relatively) easy, and cheaper than I thought, too!
Now if I could just get the wires to run from my phono (downstairs) to the computer (upstairs), we'd be in business.  (I'm not much for disassembing either system and carting it around, even if it might be the simplest thing to do!)  BTW, what type of sound card are you using?  (I don't think I have one.   *rummaging through the manuals*)                   


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Now if I could just get the wires to run from my phono (downstairs) to the computer (upstairs), we'd be in business.  (I'm not much for disassembing either system and carting it around, even if it might be the simplest thing to do!)
I have the same problem.  I'm always moving my turntable up and down the stairs.  I'm hoping to pick up another one that I can leave hooked up to the computer.  What would that be, a 12" disk drive?

BTW, what type of sound card are you using?  (I don't think I have one.   *rummaging through the manuals*)
I have a SoundBlaster Live: Value edition.  As long as you have a line in input it should work.  My mother-in-law's computer doesn't have a real soundcard (it's built onto the motherboard), but it still has a line in.                   


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What would that be, a 12" disk drive?


 My mother-in-law's computer doesn't have a real soundcard (it's built onto the motherboard), but it still has a line in.
HAHAHA!

I will have to try it.  Actually, I do have a phono right here next to the computer (I think I have one in every room in the house  :oops: ), but its of the vintage variety & I don't know if it has usable line-in, line-out.  They're there, but they may not work. 

I think I'll fire it up now, as a matter of fact.   *putting on "Bongos & Brass":  "This record represents the finest quality of multi-channel recording that can be achieved through the finest equipment available today (yes!)....Check that your pickup is balanced and adjusted to the weight specified by the manufacturer (check!)....This record should be played using RIAA reproducing equalization (roger that!)....Recorded August 9, 18, 22, 1960."*                   


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                     If you are looking to purchase some great Cocktail music you can pick up some great stuff from <a href="http://www.footlight.com">Footlight Records</a>. They ship to anywhere in the world and have a lot of stuff that wou can't find anywhere else. Oh, and they deam "Cocktail Music/Lounge" as "Easy Listening". So click the EL option.

Tell 'em Joe sent ya!                   


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                     Yes, Esquivel is high in my list, but unfortunately high priced on vinyl, also.  That's one artist that people know is worth $$$.  I ususally pay less than a dollar for my records, but I would pay more for his if I could find them.  Maybe that site smilin' buddha joe recomends would be worth a shot.                   


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                     By chance, I encountered a great Cocktail CD at my local library.  It's called "Bottoms Up"  (1997) from the Ultra-Lounge collection (www.ultralounge.com) and contains some great classics, like "Baby Elephant Walk", "Mah-Na-Mah-Na", and a cool version of "Deep Purple".  The liner notes include a "Cocktail Hints" section, complete with cocktail glassware and measures descriptions, and a few drink instructions.

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                     Hi MoonMoth & welcome!   Yes, the UltraLounge collection is one of my favorites.  If you can find the 2 sampler CDs (the Leopard Skin sampler & the Tiki sampler) somewhere, they are excellent introductions to lounge music, mostly.  Some of the selections are just plain weird, though (not that there's anything wrong with that); they don't seem to contribute to the overall mood. 
     I prefer to buy lounge music on vinyl only, & its a lot of fun digging through stacks of stuff at used record stores.  Usually they're really cheap (under $1) and have great cover art/photos.  You may even find some of the albums the UltraLounge collection samples from (all Capitol records), which are real finds.  They also have more continuity than the CDs, since they're usually the same artist.
     Here are some to look for, if you're so inclined:  Henry Mancini (early stuff, like you already mentioned), Jackie Gleason (the one and the same), Les Baxter, Martin Denny, Esquivel (all exotica), George Shearing, anything that looks "Hawaiian", anything with "percussion" in the title, and anything else that just looks good to you.  Have fun!                   


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                     Great topic!  I love Lounge/Exotica.  You guys are right, Command Records Persuasive and Provocative Percussion discs are amazing.  Enoch Light; what a genius. 
I could stay up all night listening to Martin Denny and Les Baxter. 

SusieQT, if you haven't already, track down some Jack Costanzo.  A must for bongo lovers.                   


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                     Would that be Jack Costanzo, a.k.a. "Mr. Bongo"?  I haven't found anything credited to him on LP yet, but I think I have seen some of the 45's that would have been included with the purchase of a new set of bongos back in the 50's.                   


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                     I'm glad to see this post, since I was under the impression most Atomic readers were more into '40s swing and '50s rockabilly. Not that there's anything wrong with that - I love that stuff as well, but Lounge/Exotica is definitely my bag. I have about 400 Cds that could be classified as Lounge and about 200 LPs, and counting. Recent LP acquistions of note are Richard Heyman's classic "Voodoo!" album (same title, and just as essential, as Robert Drasnin's LP, which I have on vinyl and CD), and a bunch of Les Baxter classics, including the bongo masterpieces "Teen Drums" and "Skins" and the exotica landmarks "Jungle Jazz' and "African Jazz." I already had some of CD, but nothing beats vinyl. Especially for the covers.

The Ultra Lounge series is the soundtrack to my soul, I just love it; they changed my whole lifestyle, in fact, inspired my inner lounge lizard to emerge and flourish.I also recommend the series "Space Age Pop" from RCA, "Cocktail Mix" from Rhino and "Shaken not Stirred" from Ryko, all probably out of print but still available in Tower's "Easy Listening" section (sadly shrinking after the 90s reissue boom.) Nothing beats the strange, bold, moody melodic instrumentation of cool cats like Russ Garcia, Mancini, Esquivel, Martin Denny, Arthur Lyman, Les Baxter and their peers. Very sensuous, relaxing, unique and refreshing, especially now in this age of angst-driven rhythm and mechanical dance beats.

I also just discovered the cocktail ouvre of Bob Thompson after his son got in touch with me, check out interview at Atomic right now.

Also, I posted this on the well-trafficked Anything Goes forum, but let's salute the late Rosey Clooney, beautiful music fans.

cheers!                   


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                     Bob Thompson is a new one to me-- I will definitely keep my eyes open for some of his stuff!

Yes, Mr. Thrill, there are lounge lizards at Atomic!                   


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                     I do admit to knowing more about swing and rock-a-billy than lounge/exotica thus liking it more. I'd like to get a cd or two in this area. I love percusion and think I've heard some exotica I like. Sense you all know so much about it was wonderin if you could suggest 1 or 2 cd's to that would be good to start with. I know from reading the posts you each could probably bombard me with 20-30 "MUST" haves. 1 or 2 personal favs from each of you would allow me to look them up and pick a couple. Thanks                   


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                     Lounge is a very eclectic musical genre, defined in retrospect like film noir, so its perimeters are a bit fuzzy (everything from moog to the Carpenters is included in Lounge guides, no one knows exactly where the line should be drawn - the book "Elevator Music" is the most comprehensive thing I've read on "easy listening".) But as Susie suggested, anything from the "Ultra Lounge" series is the perfect primer, particularly the two sampler comps, one has a leopard cover, the other a tiki cover, and both provide exemplary selections from the 18 or so CDs. Other favorite Ultra Lounge comps (each separated by theme) of mine are "Mondo Exotica", "The Crime Scene", "Rhapsodesia"  "Bachelor Pad Royale", "Cocktail Capers" and "Bottoms Up!" (as already suggested.) Of course I also love the different volumes devoted to organs, saxs and bongos, the movie and TV themes,the latin music comps, and...hell, I love ALL of 'em, , just get the two samplers and take it from there, you can't lose, they're all primo. There are also UL sub-series such as "Wild Cool and Swingin"', each volume featuring different vocalists including Bobby Darin, Louis Prima and Wayne Newton (better than you'd think); "On the Rocks", two volumes devoted to bizarre rock covers by lounge artists, such as Mel Torme crooning "The Games People Play" and Julie London sounding really nasty on "Yummy Yummy Yummy"....and of course the two Christmas Cocktails comps are esstential holiday mood-setters.
Check out www.ultralounge.com for the full scoop, you can download sample selections from each volume, too.
Or: Captiol put out two CD sets of some of its lounge all stars, inlcuding Martin Denny, Les Baxter and Jackie Gleason, all highly recommended.

Lounge lizards of the world....unite! cheers.                   


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                     Mmm, I have the Tiki sampler from the Ultra Lounge thing, and the Bobby Darin and the Louis Prima from the Wild, Cool and Swingin'. And not only are they brilliant, fabulous, unsurpassable, but they've also added the fantastically descriptive phrase 'Wild, Cool and Swingin' to my vocabulary. So it's worth it.

Can't find the leopard one for love nor money though.                   


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                     FedoraFella, I would definitely start with the 2 UltraLounge samplers, or some of the ones mrthrill recommends.  Like I mentioned above, I usually buy only vinyl, so I can't really help much beyond that.  I do have a reissue of a Les Baxter CD that is really neat, though; it's a double issue of "Tamboo/Skins", 2 albums originally on Capitol but rereleased by Collectables (EMI-Capitol).

You may have better luck on Amazon than in some chain record stores!                   


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                     The leopard print Ultra-Lounge compilation is included with the MusicHound Lounge Guide, although you don't get the liner notes or the nifty furry cover.  The MusicHound guide is pretty good, although their recommendations are sometimes questionable.  The biggest plus is that I've seen MusicHound guides on bargain tables at some of the big bookstores around here.  You might be able to get the Ultra Lounge compilation with the book as a bonus for quite a bit less money than ordering the compilation by itself.                   


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                     That is true; I have seen that book myself for around $5, although I can't vouch for its contents beyond the CD.  Another decent guide to lounge music is called "Forever Lounge".  But it is rather short on commentary and long on lists, which were not even as complete as I expected.                   


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                     Actually, the CD that comes with that Music Hound is different than the Leopard Print or the Tiki sampler. It was actually a sampler that was given to record stores as a give-way. This sampler covers volumes 13-18. The Tiki sampler includes volumes 13-18 as well, but also includes tracks from the two "On the Rocks" discs as well as some bonus material. The Leopard Print sampler (which, IIRC, won a Grammy for album package design) includes volumes 1-12. Around here you can still find the Tiki and Leopard Print discs in the record store part of chain bookstores. Sometimes they actually put all Ultra-Lounge discs at the end of the rock section (?!). Make sure you look in more than just the Lounge/Swing/Big Band area.


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                     A certain Jet Setter has hepped me to Jazz for the Jet Set by Dave Pike (1965).  It is available as an import CD:


Remastered from original analogue tapes. The cult vibraphonist leads a combo including Clark Terry, Billy Butler and Herbie Hancock making his all time debut on organ, on an album that captures the heartbeat of an era: fast, funky, resonant with soul and passion.
Just ordered it via Amazon.  Can't wait to get it!                   


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